the Celtics outplayed them in games 2-5 and that's disturbing.i love how if the the Miami Heat beat you in OT, the other team outplayed them. Boston did not out play Miami in game 2. Miami out played boston. Miami won. We hit the big shots in the second half to track them down, and we hit the big shots in OT.. they didnt. we did. When Miami loses game 4 in OT, boston out played them that game too, right? Despite Miami missing two game winning shot.. boston outplays them. But Miami wins in OT, they get outplayed there?
The fact that the Heat had to beat the Celtics in 7 games should serve as a huge worry for heat fans. going into game 6 most of them thought their season was over. the celtics outplayed them in games 2-5 and that's disturbing. Miami by all means should have ended the celtics in 5 or 6 games, but couldn't. we'll see how they do against a young team that's better than them, not an old team that's not nearly as good as them.Miami also did not have Chris Bosh in those games. I don't know why people keep ignoring that. Because when Bosh came back and he was given more minutes, the Heat pretty much dominated the Celtics just like they did in last year's postseason.
Reggie Miller is a name and nothing more. He's not nearly as clutch as his reputation gives him credit for (some of his biggest moments came in series that his teams lost) and Indiana made it to, what, one NBA Finals series while he was there? He didn't have the mark on the game that other great players in the 90's (like Karl Malone, John Stockton, Charles Barkley, Patrick Ewing, etc.) had and I don't really think great player when I think of Reggie Miller. I think he did one thing better than anybody else (and that's shoot) but I like baseball for how hard it is to get into their Hall of Fame and putting really, really good (but not great) players like Miller in is puzzling. He had a terrific career, though, and I can see an argument for it so I'll let it slide. But I, myself, agree that Miller's not really a Hall of Famer.
Anyone else besides JD think Allan Houston was better than Kobe Bryant during the 98-99 season?
Didn't Kobe average more PPG, more RPG, more APG, and shoot a higher FG% than Houston that season? Seems Kobe was the better player.Allan Houston went to the NBA Finals that year while Kobe Bryant lost in the Conference Semifinals so, obviously, that means Houston had the better year.
By the way, that's y'all's logic, not mine.
That's crazy logic. So everyone on the Knicks had a better season than Kobe that year?Oh yeah. That's the way Lakers fans go about explaining their stance on Kobe Bryant vs. any individual player.
Oh yeah. That's the way Lakers fans go about explaining their stance on Kobe Bryant vs. any individual player.
Allan Houston went to the NBA Finals that year while Kobe Bryant lost in the Conference Semifinals so, obviously, that means Houston had the better year.
Look, Reggie Miller is a hall of famer. The only real argument that you can make is you dont think he should be a 1st ballot hall of famer.. which i would disagree with.. but an argument can be made. guy shot 40% from 3 and was the #1 in 3's when he retired. he was all PAC 10 twice.. so this college exploits arguments is a joke. Chris Mullen has two gold medal, so does Reggie Miller. He won one for Canada in 94.
seriously, you lose alot of credibility when you say this guy isnt a hall of famer. No he isnt jordan/kobe statue. heck, he isnt even Karl Malone/Charles Barkley status in my book. But he is hall of fame.
"Let's check out that comparison since they basically played at the same time, but it must be mentioned that Price's peak was earlier in the '90's when there was far more talent than in the late-90's.
Reggie Miller
career: 18 ppg, 3 apg, 3 rpg, 54% eFG%, 40% 3FG
5 All Star Games from '90-00 (4 from '95 on)
3rd-team All-NBA 3x
received MVP votes in 2 seasons (finished 13th and 16th)
top-10 stats: 8th in ppg in '90, 5 top-9 finishes in 3FG%,
Mark Price
career: 15 ppg, 7 apg (2.7 A-TO ratio), 3 rpg, 53% eFG%, 40% 3FG
4 All Star Games from '89-94 (tougher era)
1st-team All-NBA 1x (in '93, over Stockton), 3rd-team All-NBA 3x
received MVP votes in 4 seasons (7th, 8th, 9th, 10th)
top-10 stats: 5 top-10 in apg, 3 top-6 finishes in 3FG%
Both were obviously very good free throw shooters (90% to 89% in Price's favor), but it looks like Price was considered a top-10 player by some measure 4 times, and Miller 0 times. Miller has more playoff moments we enjoy watching over and over, although he did have that 3-5 record in deciding Game 5/7's, which is a bit odd considering his clutch reputation. Price and the Cavs famously ran into the Bulls buzzsaw 5 times in the playoffs, which explains his relative lack of post-season games and success. Interesting comparison that is clearly tilted toward Price - why no fans clamoring for his inclusion?
