Boise inks deal with UT Martin in 2013

Heck you didn't even play Kansas in 2007 and you actually lost to three more that you listed (Texas in 2005 and 2006 and Texas Tech in 2005).  I did the research.  GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.  Here is the real breakdown of those 11 teams that Sooner Shel mentions from 2004 - 2007.  I'll try to make this as simple as possible for morons like Sooner Shel and Spinkiller, so they can follow along too.  I didn't check the coaches poll, so we'll use end of year rankings from the AP poll:

Doesn't matter.  Ever single one of them would have SMOKED boise state.  So you have no point to make.

Your continuously bringing up conversations like the lightweight talking to heavyweights.

I wonder why that is?  Envy I suppose.

Either way, when Boise finds a way actually play teams that matter and stop Losing to TCU's, ECU's, Montana's, Boston College's and Nevada's of the world, maybe you would have some sort of point you could make.

10-17 is not a great place to be talking from.

2007: 

Beat #4 Missouri
DIDN'T EVEN PLAY #7 Kansas
Beat #10 Texas

By the way "Mr. Homework".  In 2007, OU beat #4 Missouri TWICE that season.  You see, the
reason" OU didn't play #7 Kansas, was because the #1 ranked team in the Nation Mizzou beat Kansas for the Right to play and LOSE to the Sooners.

How many times has Boise played and Beaten the #1 team in the Nation TWICE in one season numbnuts?

That makes 3 Top 10 ranked teams and TWO TOP 5 teams beaten in one season.

But again, nice try junior.

2007:  

Beat #4 Missouri
DIDN'T EVEN PLAY #7 Kansas
Beat #10 Texas

How many times has Boise beat let alone even played 2 top 10 teams in CONFERENCE PLAY in ONE YEAR?

oh yea.......Never!

thanks for making our point for us 

Well, I see that you continue to use the broken clock is correct twice a day form of statistical analysis, Spinny.

You can't argue with someone who uses the hopeless point that a whole slate of AQ teams "would" have beaten Boise State.  Heck, use that logic and Jennifer Aniston "would" have married me if she had only played me.  How stupid to even use such would of could of should of arguments?

The trouble is that no one can either prove or disprove such speculation.  And your only "proof" is this single statistic that has to use games played in 1996 in order to "prove" how good Boise was in 2011 or to specualte how good they will be next year.

You are simply wrong, Spinny.  To even attempt to argue that Boise St. is by definition inferior to any AQ team is stupid beyond words.  Use what ever criteria you care to use, win/loss records, number of players drafted, poll standings, expert analysis, game film, coaches' opinions, TV ratings, hell, even national opinion polls, and so forth, Boise's team last year was clearly in the top tier of all teams in the country.  This opinion is supported almost universally by anyone with even a smidgen of unbiased analytical ability. 

Which is clearly why you don't get it, my old, old friend.  No one else with any kind of credibility agrees with you, but you continue to pontificate.  Even among fans of the big schools, every year the circle of people who so totally reject Boise grows smaller.  Keep it up, Spinny, pretty soon it will be down to you, Sooner Shel, diffendale, and a couple of diehard Bama fans.  Well, maybe GatorLass, you really need to get her phone number. 

Let's see, we are due for another Mt. Union comparison.  Gotta love you, Spinny, you are one of a kind.

You can't argue with someone who uses the hopeless point that a whole slate of AQ teams "would" have beaten Boise State.  Heck, use that logic and Jennifer Aniston "would" have married me if she had only played me.  How stupid to even use such would of could of should of arguments?

The trouble is that no one can either prove or disprove such speculation.  And your only "proof" is this single statistic that has to use games played in 1996 in order to "prove" how good Boise was in 2011 or to specualte how good they will be next year.

Again Smiles and his hypocrisy.

Smiles, what do we have as evidence that Boise is better than James Madison U?

What do we have as evidence that Boise is better than Montana when the last meeting btween the two teams, Montana took Boise to the Woodshed beating them by 4 touchdowns?

You have no argument Smiles.

Your team continues to hide behind the Smoke and Mirrors. 

Let's see, we are due for another Mt. Union comparison.

actually what Mt Union has done under Larry Kehres is much more impressive then what Boise has done recently

there are no athletic scholarships at the Division 3 level, yet Kehres has been able to find the best of whats left after 1-A 1-AA and D2 teams take their players and coach them up into winners to be part of a program that has been a machine at their level for the past 20 or so years 

since 1986 Mt Union is 317-24-3  with 10 national titles.....complete domination of their level of play, a level with very little resources.

To even attempt to argue that Boise St. is by definition inferior to any AQ team is stupid beyond words. 

No it isn't.  It is very easy to do. They are inferior to many many AQ programs in every sense of the word.  Boise just gets to hide from the onslaught 11 out of 12 games every year. Pretty simple to do.

 Boise's team last year was clearly in the top tier of all teams in the country.  This opinion is supported almost universally by anyone with even a smidgen of unbiased analytical ability. 

Clear as MUD Smiles.  There is no way whatsoever to prove analytically any such thing as it is based on pure speculation.  Boise beat UGA and Oregonao State dude. In fact, they didn't even beat Oregeno State very convincingly at all.

If you can draw a conclusion analytically from a 2 out of 12 indicator, you are one hell of a genius.

Boise is awarded the Media and pollsters "Affirmative Action Vote" year after year and you know it.

Problem is, when you are the recipient of it, you seem to LOVE it too much to argue.

Your MWC CHAMPIONS, the team that beat Boise, Lost to SMU for crying out loud.  Further, they SHOULD have lost to La Tech in the Poinsettia Bowl.

actually what Mt Union has done under Larry Kehres is much more impressive then what Boise has done recently

there are no athletic scholarships at the Division 3 level, yet Kehres has been able to find the best of whats left after 1-A 1-AA and D2 teams take their players and coach them up into winners to be part of a program that has been a machine at their level for the past 20 or so years 

since 1986 Mt Union is 317-24-3  with 10 national titles.....complete domination of their level of play, a level with very little resources.

Ive said it time and time again osubuckeye.  I think they could beat Boise 5 or 6 out of 10.

Ive said it time and time again osubuckeye.  I think they could beat Boise 5 or 6 out of 10.

I definetly would not say that

the talent gap between Division 1 and Division 3 is pretty big 

I'd say Mount Union completely dominating their division for 20+ years is a lot more impressive then Boise stringing out a good decade against the middle-bottom of their division 

Smiles, what do we have as evidence that Boise is better than James Madison U?

What do we have as evidence that Boise is better than Montana when the last meeting btween the two teams, Montana took Boise to the Woodshed beating them by 4 touchdowns?

You have no argument Smiles.

Your team continues to hide behind the Smoke and Mirrors. 

What proof is their that any team you mentioned could beat Boise. What proof is their that OU could beat boise. I mean Boise is 1-0 against your team after all.

Smiles, what do we have as evidence that Boise is better than James Madison U?

What do we have as evidence that Boise is better than Montana when the last meeting btween the two teams, Montana took Boise to the Woodshed beating them by 4 touchdowns?

You have no argument Smiles.

Your team continues to hide behind the Smoke and Mirrors.

As predicatble as dust when the wind blows on the plains of Oklahoma.

So using the same logic, can you prove that Oklahoma is better than James Madison?  Of course you can't.

Let's see, the last meeting between Boise and Montana was back when they played in the same division, what, 15 or 20 years ago?  And what again does this prove, besides that Boise, since being in division one has made amazing progress?

Of course I have no argument, nor do you.  You can't refute something that doesn't happen.  You can't prove something based on speculation.

The only proof would be if the teams you list would actually set up a game.  Trust me, we Boise fans would love the chance.  But it seems that none of these brave talkers are willing to set these things up, especially on a level playing field.

No, you try to base arguments based on woulda coulda shoulda.  Of course such tripe can't be refuted.  Me?  I prefer actual games played in the current century with players who are currently playing, not games played back when Barry Switzer purchased his players or when Boise was in division 1aa.

Y'all are all idiots!!!!



Oklahoma is way up there ^^^^^^^^^^

AND (look down)













Boise ST. is way down here.  This whole argument is ridiculous, It's like saying Louisian Tech is better than Alabama because they upset Bama that one year. Get a life people!      

So what proof do you have, Bama Tee, what was the score when Boise played the Tide?

Bingo.  Now we can make educated guesses.  Bama has an outstanding team, no one would dare argue that, I suspect that they would be favored by a lot, especially if the game was in Tuscaloosa.  If the game was in Boise, well, maybe not so much, that would have the oddsmakers intrigued, that's for sure.  This year, I'd even give Bama the definite edge, they have a great bunch of players and Boise lost a lot to graduation.

But to make that argument must by definition subject to speculation.  All we can do is use the transitive property of who played who and then compare scores.  Such arguments are of course, flawed.  the only REAL way to know is see how they do, on a neutral field.

But hey, call folks "idiots" all you want.  But I'd be careful if I were you.  I seem to remember this argument a few years back in which no one gave Utah a chance in the Sugar Bowl.  How did that one turn out?  Who was the "idiot" that time?

I'm used to the experts telling us Boise fans that our team has no chance.  And I'm also used to those very fans looking down in shame when I asked them how things turned out.  Is Boise the best team in America?  I say that it would sure would have been nice to find out.  Boise's team over the last 3 years was the best I've ever seen play.  It would have been great if the blockhead money changers who actually run the sport could have figured out a way to make a game happen somewhere along the way, but Boise doesn't belong to the correct Country Club or adequately grease the palms of the Bowl Committee pigs, I guess.  Maybe it's my fault.  I should have emailed Paul Hoolahan and promised that we Boise fans would buy expensive hotel rooms in N'arleans and party hardy on Bourbon St.  Maybe we should have had him up to Idaho and took him golfing, fishing & hunting, and arranged for him to meet a nice girl. That's what the other guys did.

Man, and all along we thought that the answer was to get a really, really good football team.

Hey wasnt that the same Utah team that beat TCU that year? Oh wasnt that the same TCU team that beat BSU that year? Seems like UTAH might have been a good team that year. Could be part of the reason the Utes are now a BCS team an BSU still cant decide which conf to go to.

Army has scheduled a home/home with Stanford for 2013/2014.

Give it a rest, Armyguy16.  Boise has played 13 end of year ranked teams since Chris Petersen took over in 2006.  That is very, very impressive for a mid-major.  Heck that's pretty impressive for some AQ teams, particularly teams from the ACC and Big East and even in some cases on par with teams from the Big 10 and Pac-12!  Oh and he's beaten 9 of those 13 teams.  Again not too shabby for a so-called "mid-major."

Army has played 3 end of year ranked teams since 2006.  #22 TCU in 2006, #17 Notre Dame in 2006, and #10 Boston College in 2007 (of course all losses).  YOUR TEAM HASN'T PLAYED AN END OF YEAR RANKED TEAM SINCE 2007!  It's obviously a good thing that you got Stanford on the docquet for 2013 and 2014.  Are you kidding me?

And as an Army fan you're on here criticizing Boise's schedule and calling it pathetic?!  I challenge you to find a mid-major other than maaaaaybe Fresno that schedules tougher.  Seriously.  Find me one.   

Hey wasnt that the same Utah team that beat TCU that year? Oh wasnt that the same TCU team that beat BSU that year? Seems like UTAH might have been a good team that year. Could be part of the reason the Utes are now a BCS team an BSU still cant decide which conf to go to.

All the more reason why we should have a game.

In Salt Lake, trailing 10-6, Utah scored with 48 seconds left in the game to win 13-10.  In that same year, TCU trailed Boise all game, only to score late, winning by a single point.  Sounds like all three teams were head and shoulders better than Alabama that year who got blown out of the stadium by the Utes.  Utah dominated in every single facet of the game, and basically sat on the ball the entire fourth quarter.  So, now that you mention it, Alabama was inferior to THREE nonAQ teams that year.

Ouch!

Oh, but you still think that they don't belong, don't you?

So by your logic smiles BSU getting beat by the team that lost to Utah makes you better then bama because bama lost to utah? Nice logic.... You can have that what if win if it makes you feel better. Ill take the two NCs since them......




Congratulation on your what if win. 

In Salt Lake, trailing 10-6, Utah scored with 48 seconds left in the game to win 13-10.  In that same year, TCU trailed Boise all game, only to score late, winning by a single point.  Sounds like all three teams were head and shoulders better than Alabama that year who got blown out of the stadium by the Utes.  Utah dominated in every single facet of the game, and basically sat on the ball the entire fourth quarter.  So, now that you mention it, Alabama was inferior to THREE nonAQ teams that year.

Ouch!

Oh, but you still think that they don't belong, don't you?

OU beat that same TCU team by 4 Touchdowns. 

Smiles and his little lap dog taunts.  Cute most of the time, but can be annoying to a bigger dog at times.  Luckily, the little lap dog is in a safe little pen with all the other yappy lap dogs.

Yap yap Yappin at the Big Dogs.

Boise has played 13 end of year ranked teams since Chris Petersen took over in 2006.  That is very, very impressive for a mid-major.  Heck that's pretty impressive for some AQ teams, particularly teams from the ACC and Big East and even in some cases on par with teams from the Big 10 and Pac-12!  Oh and he's beaten 9 of those 13 teams.  Again not too shabby for a so-called "mid-major."

Dude, how many those did he actually SCHEDULE?

If you are now including BOWL GAMES in your "YE RANKED" stats, by all means lets compare.

OU has played 30
Boise has played 13

The End.

Smiles I will tell you what.  This year, I would like to attend a Boise home game with you.

Of course it will have to NOT conflict with the Mighty Sooners Schedule. 

But I think a Boise home game is in order.

I will even pay for your tickets, drinks and dinner.