Pac-12 Will Dominate College Football in 2012

Also, I believe you you intended to say "that's TOO funny". Talk about a F*&^ING DORK!!


Sorry for missing it by ONE "O"  thank you Mr. Hand. Well here in the West we dont use the word "CREAM"  so I was just wondering but since you had to go and show me just what your made of, thanks Mr  English/Humanitarian/Social Studies teacher you are. So in other words there are only two confrences in America that have teams that " Rise to the top " Like I said that's "TOO" funny. I guess that means that the other 3 are more competitive and have a better turn around for teams playing for thier respective confrences championship game.   

Um I live out west and I have used cream as in cream of the crop.

Yes, you are correct. When I post, I very often reveal myself for what I am - an educated and articulate person. GASP! But whether you realize it or not, you also show everyone "what your (sic) made of" when you comment on posts where you do not comprehend the intent. It's OK to not understand a reference or statement if you are seeing it for the first time. But rather than to go on and ridicule & berate the poster and call them a F*&^ING DORK (really mature by the way - are you 13?), maybe you could try responding like "Hey there. Interesting idea, but the CREAM part - I am not familiar with that reference. What do you mean by that?" You can even do it as a private message. That way - you would come off as an inquring and respectful person without looking like a big DORK to others who do understand the post.

Abraham Lincoln (he was our 16th president BTW) once said, "It is better to reamain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt." Words to live by my friend. Maybe before you comment on something that is above your head - you should remember the words of good ole Abe.

Whoa, Dude!! That Abe guy is totally gnarly, huh?? Now thank Mr. Hand and pass me a slice of that pizza.

Wrong, I made no comparison between LSU and other SEC teams.  I've been talking about LSU against Pac teams...11 straight including over USCw, Oregon, Arizona, Zona State, Oregon State, Udub and some of those teams a couple of times.  


you are the one making claims that the Pac will dominate CFB when everyone with a brain knows if any conference is going to dominate CFB, it's the SEC.  6 Straight National Championships...deal with it.   

Ok Tall Tiger
I see where your at. My mistake on the class of the SEC. But I still think that it is pointless that you have an 11 game win streak over teams in the Pac that were not top programs in the country at the time. Its like USC beating up on Vandy, Kentucky, Ole Miss and MissSt. Doesnt really prove anything other than you can beat average to below average teams. Im pretty sure that at some point is time the streak will end with the SEC winning the NC. I happen to think it will be this year. I have dealt with the SEC on the top of the BCS mountain and really didnt mind because it was obvious most years who the best team was. Didnt mean it was the best conference though. I also think that there will be more ranked teams in the Pac than in the SEC. That is why i have been saying what youve been hearing. Dominate is probably the word that has everyone mixed up with what i am trying to say. Because really all that i am saying is there will be more ranked teams which would mean that THIS season the Pac will be considered better because of the higher amount of ranked teams. There is definitely a chance of that happening and its very much something that we have seen happen before, where something highly unlikely before the season starts becomes a reality by seasons end. We'll just have to wait and see i guess.

Come on you guys you're wasting OUR time. MY time, Your time and everyone elses in this room.

I thought wasting time was the purpose of these forums. LOL

But I still think that it is pointless that you have an 11 game win streak over teams in the Pac that were not top programs in the country

Then you think the USC wins over SEC teams was pontless then.  No SEC team USC has beaten last 25 years has less than 4 losses.  At least LSU beat a 2 loss Oregon team last year. 


In the last 30 years, LSU is 10-0 over Pac teams and has twice beaten the Pac-10 Champion by an avg of 16.5 ppg.  During the same span, USC is 4-3 against SEC teams has not beaten the SEC champ. 
  

In the last 30 years, LSU is 10-0 over Pac teams and has twice beaten the Pac-10 Champion by an avg of 16.5 ppg.  During the same span, USC is 4-3 against SEC teams has not beaten the SEC champ. 

Ok so to stop going in circles who is better and why. USC or LSU? Not because of the last time they played each other or number of championships but right now. Who is better and why? How about that

Come on you guys you're wasting OUR time. MY time, Your time and everyone elses in this room.

OilyDuck

Ok so what do you suppose we discuss so that nobody is wasting time? 

USC Fight- You are missing the refferences being used.

USC or LSU? Not because of the last time they played each other or number of championships but right now. Who is better and why?

LSU will be better because of a stronger O-line and D-Line.  3 of the 4 D Lineman on next year's LSU defense will likely be 1st round picks when they go pro.  All 5 of our O-lineman are projected to be drafted in next year's draft and 1 or 2 are projected 1st rounders depending on which "expert" is picking. 

LSU was clearly better last year beating the National Champion, Orange Bowl winner, and Rose Bowl winner and finishing 13-1 compared to USC beating the Rose winner (but LSU beat Oregon by 10 more points than did USC) and going 10-2 overall.

From last year's team, USC lost 2 players drafted in the 1st round of the NFL draft and LSU also lost 2.  USC lost a great O-lineman that will be impossible to replace at the same level and also lost a DE when their defense was suspect last year giving up 40+ points on 3 occasions.  LSU lost a DT and will replace him with a monster (Anthony Freak Johnson) who was a true Frosh last year but is over 300 lbs and runs a 4.7.  We will have a good replacement for Morris Claiborne at CB but we will not be quite as good at that position. 

Also, LSU makes a major upgrade at QB finally ridding ouselves of 3 years of QB mediocrity with a guy who will be drafted and can really throw the ball downfield.         

USC Fight- You are missing the refferences being used.

Its Monday..... Annnnnnd Im back I got it now. Furthest thing from blonde too.

LSU will be better because of a stronger O-line and D-Line.  3 of the 4 D Lineman on next year's LSU defense will likely be 1st round picks when they go pro.  All 5 of our O-lineman are projected to be drafted in next year's draft and 1 or 2 are projected 1st rounders depending on which "expert" is picking.

  I think its safe to say that your D line will be better and your O line may also. We were so young and in experienced for the most part in the trenches last year. the one thing about that is we have future pros on that line too and may have had more last year had they not been so young. 

LSU was clearly better last year beating the National Champion, Orange Bowl winner, and Rose Bowl winner and finishing 13-1 compared to USC beating the Rose winner (but LSU beat Oregon by 10 more points than did USC) and going 10-2 overall.

Again I dont really care how they did last year because they could lose their first 2 or three games this year. There is just no way to know until it happens. Not one analyst picked USC over Oregon last year and we know how that one turned out.

From last year's team, USC lost 2 players drafted in the 1st round of the NFL draft and LSU also lost 2.  USC lost a great O-lineman that will be impossible to replace at the same level and also lost a DE when their defense was suspect last year giving up 40+ points on 3 occasions.  LSU lost a DT and will replace him with a monster (Anthony Freak Johnson) who was a true Frosh last year but is over 300 lbs and runs a 4.7.  We will have a good replacement for Morris Claiborne at CB but we will not be quite as good at that position. 

USC lost a great lineman indeed but this is not unusual to do. Nobody thought we could replace Palmer either. Our defense will be much improved this season with a good portion of red shirts hitting the field this year with some knowledge of the program. We return a stud secondary and young linebackers. i think we will be just fine. Will your defense look better than the last time the country saw them play is my question.

Also, LSU makes a major upgrade at QB finally ridding ouselves of 3 years of QB mediocrity with a guy who will be drafted and can really throw the ball downfield.

        Hmmm well weve got the best QB and WR's in the nation this year who will for sure be top ten 1st rounders and our QB most likely the number one overall pick with Woods not too far behind. If Lee could leave hed be a top ten pick too. 


Overall I think LSU will be good being a Trojan fan I think they will be better. September cant come quick enough if you ask me. 

 Hmmm well weve got the best QB and WR's in the nation this year who will for sure be top ten 1st rounders and our QB most likely the number one overall pick with Woods not too far behind.

No argument on that but Mettenberger will give us a much better passing game than we have had at least since Matt FLynn.

Will your defense look better than the last time the country saw them play is my question.

YES.  The fact is, it's very difficult to beat the most talented team in the nation twice in the same season and Alabama was the most talented team last year and played a perfect game. I think this year, we have that edge.  Alabama OC came up with 1 play that worked but it kept working and the bottom line is that our offense did absolutely nothing and our defense eventually just got worn down tackling the best RB in the nation.  Don't forget that USC lost by 3TD to ASU last year so everyone has a down game....ours came at the worst possible time.

    

   
  

Just doing my part to keep this thread on page one. GO BEAVS ! !

Alabama might have been the most talented defensive team but were nowhere near the most talented offense

Alabama might have been the most talented defensive team but were nowhere near the most talented offense

Tall tiger

I dont like him but Wazzufan31 has a point!  You are correct about the ASU game and I couldnt tell you what fell apart that night. Lets just hope that neither team has a down game and the ultimate matchup for bragging rights can occur! 

YES.  The fact is, it's very difficult to beat the most talented team in the nation twice in the same season and Alabama was the most talented team last year and played a perfect game. I think this year, we have that edge.  Alabama OC came up with 1 play that worked but it kept working and the bottom line is that our offense did absolutely nothing and our defense eventually just got worn down tackling the best RB in the nation.  Don't forget that USC lost by 3TD to ASU last year so everyone has a down game....ours came at the worst possible time.

And Oregon's down game came against LSU. I haven't looked at all your posts, but I'd think it's safe to say you have or still do chest thump about that game. Saw something talking about LSU vs Oregon above. If you don't acknowledge that Oregon's uncharacteristic amount of penalties, turnovers and dropped passes was their "down game" than you're whole post makes about as much sense as points LSU scored in the NC game.